>> a supermoon, super wolf blood moon turning a shade of red. >>chris: hello again from fox news in washington. if things look different, that's because of the fact we had a fire. yes, a fire in our building on north capitol street so we are over at our wonderful affiliate. in northwest washington but we will put on the show today. we may not have a lot of the bells and whistles we normally have but just take a little time travel and pretend you're back in the 1950s and you will feel very comfortable about that. the ball is now in the democrats court after the president made an offer yesterday trading full funding

for the border wall, $5.7 billion in return for temporary protected status for the dreamers and refugees in this country. as well as reopening the shutdown. disruption keeps growing after the standoff over the president's border wall reaches day 30 point we are into the fifth week of the shutdown. we are honored on this very irregular program for the vice president of the united states, mike pence. mr. vice president, welcome. thank you for being with us. >> good to be here.>>chris: we were going to have - - from kevin court reviewing within this plan but i will ask you now, what the president offer? >> a good-faith compromise to address what is a genuine humanitarian and security crisis on our southern border. and ends the government shutdown the senate leadership,, connell has agreed

to bring this bill to the floor on tuesday. congress will begin its work. really what the president did over the last month and notably over the last two weeks was direct our team to meet with rank-and-file democrats.to find out what they were looking for. you know the legislative process traditionally is republicans would offer their solutions, democrats would offer amendments. but the president said look, we want to put it all on the table. in a very real sense, what president trump did is he set the table for a deal that will address the crisis on our board. to secure our border and give us a pathway. >>chris: as you well know, house democrats rejected the president's plan before he even offered it. speaker pelosi called it a quote, nonstarter. i wanted to point out their specific objection but they say

it doesn't reopen the government first which they insist on. they say doesn't provide permanent protection for the dreamers and the tps refugees. it's only three years. and they say the full funding the president is demanding, $5.7 billion for the wall, is a waste of money. i guess my question is is the president willing to sit down and negotiate the differences or is what he offered yesterday his final offer? >> there's a legislative process that will begin on tuesday in the united states senate. it was disappointing to see speaker pelosi reject the offer before the president gave his speech. look, the president is offering a solution. what we had from democratic leadership so far is just soundbites. and the american people want us to work together and to resolve these issues. >>chris: if i may serve, when you say work together, does that mean you are willing to negotiate from what the president said or is that the final offer? >> of course be the legislative process is a negotiation. up to this point, literally,

for the last month while the present and i have stayed in washington and been engaging continuously with democrat leadership. and with rank-and-file members in the house and senate. what we've heard again and again is we will not negotiate until the president reopens the government. this bill would reopen the government. >>chris: well, they are simply open the government first. and then negotiate about border security and immigration. are you rejecting that? >> i think it was a week and half ago, the speaker looked at speaker pelosi and the situation room and said if i gave you everything you wanted, if i reopened the government gave you 30 days to work with us on homeland security to address the crisis on our southern border. would you give me border security and funding for a while? she said, no. so the president said let's go

to rank-and-file members and since that time our negotiating team has been sitting down talking to house democrats. we've been in contact with senate democrats and the president told us to listen. what the american people heard yesterday was statesmanship. was the president laying out a genuine compromise. even this morning, the "washington post" said, make the deal. because they can see both sides are getting what they want. the president has made it clear that we want border security. we want funding for a while. a steel barrier on the southern barrier. we want money for additional technology, additional personnel, humanitarian assistance, changes in amnesty laws so that children can apply for amnesty and central american countries. all of those things coming together as the president added to that, three years of temporary relief for daca recipients. >>chris: i'm not saying whether it's reasonable, i'm just think

the democrats won't accept that package. let me ask you a couple specific questions. >> i'm not sure that's true. we've had a lot of dialogue. >>chris: let me ask you a question that the senate will take this bill up this week. do you have the seven senate democrats you're going to need to break the filibuster? yes or no? >> as the present often says, we will see.>>chris: but you don't have them right now. >> when the american people have an opportunity to look at this proposal. which is a balanced, good-faith compromise. when they reflect on what is a real humanitarian crisis on our southern border. we have 60,000 people a month attempting to come into this country illegally.

2000 people a day. for the first time ever, the vast majority are families and unaccompanied children being exploited by human traffickers and cartels.that take cash to have them take the long and dangerous journey. it is overwhelming our system and in the midst of that, narcotics, criminals coming across our border. the american people want action on our southern border. they wantborder security. 800,000 federal workers want us to find a way to open government and . >>chris: you could open the government tomorrow.>> we could do all that. >>chris: you could open the government tomorrow.the house has passed bills to open the government tomorrow, why don't you sign them? and then you can negotiate about this. >> frankly chris, what the american people want us to do is to work on their priorities forthe american people want us to secure the border . >>chris: no. isn't it just that you want the leverage. and you figure if you don't keep the government closed, they will go nowhere. >> again, i was sitting right next to the president when pelosi said, if we reopen the government and took 30 days to negotiate, that she would not

give the president border security or a wall. what we want to do is go into the legislative process. the president has embraced and said he's willing to sign a three-year extension, temporary relief for daca. three-year extension for people with temporary status. >>chris: they say they want it to be permanent. >> now people will vote and we will see where they stand. the most important thing is for the american people to let their voice be heard. >>chris: there are immigration hardliners letting their voice be heard and they say but the president offered goes too far and that it's amnesty. and coulter so we voted for trump and we got - - if it's three years, they say it's a three-year amnesty and you don't even get a full wall. >> the president made it clear that he was open to resolving the issue of dreamers. we are talking about 700,000 people were brought into this

country as children. and the president has shown a willingness to address that issue. let's be clear, what he put on the table yesterday - - >>chris: what do you say about amnesty? >> it's not amnesty. we are asking for $5 billion on a wall. >>chris: i'm talking about dreamers. >> the president has said we will support temporary relief for three years for daca recipients and those who are on temporary protected status. this is not amnesty. there's no pathway to citizenship. there's no permanent status here at all which is what amnesty contemplates. this is a good faith effort to address the issue. bring relief to daca recipients. democrats have proposed in the bridge act, a three-year reprieve that could be renewable.

again, i think as the american people look at this chris, they will see this for what it is. president trump said bring me the ideas from both sides. let's put them all on the table his former fixer, does that tel robert mueller who the president keeps accusing of conducting a witchhunt. one of his rare statements to say this attack on the present is not true. >> the president expressed his appreciation to the special counsel for clarifying that that report was inaccurate.

i think what it says more about is the obsession of many in the national media to attackthis president for any reason , for any allegation. for anyreport . it was remarkable what we saw happening for 24 hours in the media. on the basis of the report that appeared in buzzfeed. i think it's one of the reasons why people are so frustrated with many in the national media and the constant obsession. >>chris: if i may because i want to move along. what about the house democrats, some of whom said if it's true, we need resignation or impeachment? >> again, the media's obsession on this issue. >>chris: i'm talking about members of congress. >> frankly, the reflexive willingness of the president's critics and the democratic party to accept the worst facts and interpretations.

the american people expect better. this administration has fully cooperated with the special counsel be released over 1 million documents. the special counsel will complete his work we will have all the facts.the president has maintained he's done nothing wrong but theamerican people ought to be confident that our administration is cooperating . and frankly, this was the ãi think the american people saw the hyper partisanship among democrats to assume the worst about this president and many in the national media willingness to assume the worst about the president. the reality is, the american people want us doing, what the president did yesterday.late framework to where we can work together. let's start talking to one another. >>chris: even though were in a different studio i'm going to try to move you along. president trump has announced another summit with kim jong-un

for late next month with this week, the president said we have made quote, tremendous progress with north korea. on wednesday you said, we're still waiting for them to make your words, concrete steps. so which is it? are we making tremendous progress or are still awaiting any concrete steps? they don't seem to go together. >> they go perfectly well together. think about where we were two years ago. with the president and i took our oaths of office. we had a regime in north korea that was testing nuclear weapons, that was firing missiles. over the sea of japan making menacing statements against the united states and our allies. >>chris: intelligence as they are continuing to make more nuclear fuel and missiles. >> no testing. because of his strong stand in his engagement with kim jong-un directly at that first summit in singapore, no testing of

nuclear weapons, no firing of missiles. i had the great honor of being in hawaii when the remains of our fallen heroes - - >>chris: they are not the nuclear rising - - denuclearizing. >> at that second summit we will lay out for north korea concrete steps to make real the denuclearization that he committed to. the conversation i've seen between him and chairman cam have been truly remarkable. the president believes we can make real progress and we will continue to strive for it. >>chris: this week, you defended the president's decision to pull u.s. troops out of syria and here's the quote, we are bringing our troops home for the caliphate

has crumbled and isis has been defeated. but you were free before that statement about the fact that there had been this horrific suicide bombing that killed four americans. is that with the defeat of isis looks like? >> first and foremost, our hearts go out to the families of those for american heroes. we are praying especially for them yesterday. as there remains returned. to dover air force base. the progress we have made against isis since this president came into office has really been remarkable. after president obamawithdrew american forces from iraq , we literally saw this isis caliphate rise up and overrun vast areas of syria and iraq to have been won by the american soldier. president obama began the process of a bombing campaign. two years later.

but president trump changed the rules of engagement. he told our military as commander-in-chief to go after them and our soldiers and the americans in the fight along with our allies have literately crossed the isis estate. - - crushed. the president made the decision to hand off the fight against isis and syria to our coalition partners who are working on the process of doing that. the president wants to bring our troops home but we recognize there are remnants and isis fighters still in the region. but we've taken back 99 percent of the territory that the caliphate claimed. in a real sense, the isis state has been defeated but we will not rest or relent until we drive isis not only from the region but from the face of the earth. >>chris: mr. vice president, thank you. thank you especially for switching signals. instead of going to one place, coming here. you really saved our bacon. thank you sir.

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me, chris. >>chris: why flatly reject the president's offer which yes, it calls for more money for the wall but on the other hand, it does offer temporary protection for the dreamers. temporary protection for the tps refugees and would reopen the government. why not sit down and negotiate? isn't a reasonable offer? >> thank you for having me. what we are trying to do here is get the government open. what we say to the president is let's open the government. we can do that as you said tomorrow morning. he has bills he can sign and open the government up right away. let's not hold the american people, especially federal workers, hostage to these negotiations. and hopefully, we will open with what he has put on the table and let's go back and forth on this and see where we can find common ground in we

are all for negotiating. we would love to have a permanent fix for daca and tps, just as he wants a permanent wall. i think it's a nonstarter for him to ask for a permanent wall and for us to have a temporary fix. just think of what would happen to daca children. if you are finishing high school and get a temporary three year fix. that means by the time you got to your junior year of college, you are under threat of having the world collapsed from under you. never being able to finish school. just as the president did when he came into office and got rid of what president obama had done for daca recipients. this is the kind of stuff we want to sit down and put some stability in people's lives and have permanent solutions for those immigrants.

the president wants to continue to play games with us. >>chris: bottom line, are you saying, no negotiations until the president reopens the government? are you saying as speaker pelosi does, under no circumstances, no new money for the wall? >> i am not saying that. i am saying yes to the first part. to the second part, it seems as if the president started talking about - - and his statement yesterday but he realized, i have been talking about various for a long time. a smart wall would be a barrier. a smart wall would be using drones, sensors, x-ray equipment to be an effective wall.not just something that would be a monument to 16 - - one's existence.

but to be a deterrent and an effective barrier for those trying to come in easily. while we are doing that, let's fix our ports of entry. >>chris: look at what the president is offering on his son. protection, yes temporary. protection for the dreamers and tps refugees. more money for immigration judges. more money for border patrol bit more money for detention beds. humanitarian support and drug detection technology. don't democrats and up looking like you don't care about border security and that you don't want to reopen the government? >> i don't know how it may look but what i would ask is look at the alien dollars that was put on the table before the president had his statement yesterday. $450 million for hiring new judges, hiring new personnel .

border policeman. and another $550 million to put in for points of entry. for having the infrastructure we need. so that is already on the table. i don't know if the president didn't think that was new but all he did was regurgitate the stuff we had already given him in the past several months. >>chris: just to make clear, you are saying, no negotiations, no compromise on till he agrees to read open the government. the pressure reopen the government. is that correct? >> that's absolutely correct and i can't see us keeping federal employees, 800,000 people out of work. probably go back and forth on negotiations. these could take 3-4 weeks. we ought to open the government

up. we can pass a continuing resolution for 30 days. get the government open and get people back to work and then let's sit around the table and see where the common ground is. it may be just as simple as taking temporary off the tps fix and i hope it would include those countries where i find my roots. where he seemed to be so dismissive of some time ago. and that is haiti, african countries, temporary protected status for all people seeking to come to this country. >>chris: congressman, i want to switch to two other subjects. first buzzfeed. special counsel robert mueller as i just discuss not down the buzzfeed story that the special counsel had evidence that the president directed michael cohen to lie to congress.

before he did, before he knocked the story down. house democrats jumped on the story. i want to read a couple quotes from what they said. jamie raskin, democrat of maryland said we don't know if it's true of course but already people are saying this is a matter of the gravest urgency. david's sister - - this is the most serious threat to the trump presidency we've seen so far. should your members be more cautious. it almost seemed in this rest to judgment as if there's a lot of house democrats that want to impeach the president. >> chris, when you preface your statement with, if this is true. that to me, it gives you all the cover you need. and i would say that. if it is true. if they had said something as if it were true, then that would be one thing to be concerned about. but they've all said, if this is true. there are a lot of things i hear daily. if it were true i would be

concerned. sometimes you preface with that and sometimes you don't say anything. i don't think my democratic friends in any way are rushing to judgment because they qualified it right up front. if this is true. >>chris: all right, this weekend of course is martin luther king weekend. you will be speaking tomorrow in the state capital in columbia in observance of doctor king's birthday. as some members , democrats who are potential candidates in 2020 will be there. couple questions. first of all, is there anybody so far in this crazy field, could be as many as two dozen candidates.is there anybody that stands out for you and more specifically, is there any one of them you think could advance doctor king's legacy?

>> quite a few of them could advance thatlegacy. i think , i don't know who all will run. but you've got people like joe biden that spends a lot of time in south carolina. joe biden has demonstrated a commitment to martin luther king jr.'s legacy. you've got cory booker, kamala harris. these are the three people that i've seen mostly in south carolina. eric stalwell. we have others who would be coming very soon. i talked with kirsten gillibrand, she tells me she's on her way to south carolina. i've worked with all of these people. i think they are outstanding people. i think they would make great public servants been they already are great public servants. any one of them would do a good job of pushing that legacy. remember, in fact i will talk about this tomorrow. i've told people a lot, aside

from the bible, i think one of the most timely statements i've read in my life was martin luther king's letter from the birmingham city jail that i've read that letter about 100 times. i read some of it again last night. what jumped off the page at me is injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. and that reminded so much of what were going through today. the injustices we see taking place at our southern border. the injustice we see taking place in fair housing. these things are things that democrats have been pushing for us to get fixed. and i think any one of these candidates would be good messengers for that. >>chris: congressman, james clyburn. thank you so much for joining us today. we will of course be following what happens next in the shutdown. thank you sir. robert mueller's office makes its silence to not down

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>> i appreciate the special counsel coming out with his statement last night. i think it was very appropriate they did so. i very much appreciate that. i think the buzzfeed these was a disgrace. to our country >>chris: president trump with rare praise for special counsel robert mueller after he knocked down that buzzfeed story. the president directed his former lawyer michael cohen to lie to congress. it's time now for our sunday panel. speaker of the house, newt gingrich. former democratic congressman donna edwards and guy benson. speaker gingrich, welcome to

our fox affiliate. if you knew how we had scrambled. >> people tell me you were the first person to notice the fir . let not. >>chris: we could all smell it. how damaging is the buzzfeed story and the almost total knocked down by the special counsel to the media? >> it comes on the previous new york times story that said trump could be a russian agent until you get to paragraph nine that said there's no proof that this story is true. >>chris: this is the story that there was acounterintelligence investigation . >> trump has had about 90 percent negative, he tweeted about this. i think he said the worst media story since lincoln. you cannot find any other president that has been a relentless unending assault.

- - luckily, they said it's not true.>>chris: you did say it was alive very quickly. congresswoman edwards, as i discussed with congressman cliburn. as soon as the story came out there was almost this rush to judgment. i will get back to the media. there was a rush to judgment by democratic congressman. yes they said if true, but they almost seem to want it to be true. i just want to read one piece of sound, we don't have any sounds i will read it. joaquin castro of texas, if the president directed michael cohento lie to congress, that's a clear case of participating in perjury and obstruction of justice. and he should resign. but if he doesn't resign, he should be impeached . does that hurt the credibility of the democrats in congress,

in the house, before they even knew whether this was true. yes they said if it's true but we are already talking about impeachment and resignation flex i think - - >> what you hear from the democratic leadership and the house chairman and women really control this agenda did you hear a little restraint for saying let's wait until the report is issued. one of the reasons is because, there have been so many reports of supposedly information coming out and around the mueller investigation. really what we've learned is through indictments. we've learned through court proceedings. but we don't really know what robert mueller has.i think it's reallyimportant for us to wait for that investigation to complete it self . >>chris: do you think - - made a mistake? >> i think she is not the language police. she is not the one that can police all of the comments of members.

they did preface it with, if it's true. what you hear from leadership is we will wait for the mother report and that's been consistent. i do think there are things outside of the mueller investigation and other courts and other jurisdictions that could give rise to consideration of investigation for impeachment. in the house of representatives. the robert mueller report, the russia investigation has not come to that fruition yet. >>chris: guy, someone said the worst thing that can happen in our business is to have an exclusive that stays in exclusive. meaning, no one else corroborates it. everybody on friday was rushing like crazy to say, is it true? eventually it was knocked down by the special counsel for how damaging you think this is to the credibility of not just buzzfeed but of the media in general. >> it's a black guy for buzzfeed. the story hung out there for

hours and hours. into the next day. beyond just that, another thing that smelled fishy was the two journalist who reported the story seem to contradict each other the next day about whether or not they had seen the suppose it evidence that allegedly backed up this explosive claim. once it we didn't see and one said they did. that was odd. and then the statement comes out from mueller. i think broadly speaking about the media, there was a sense of palpable this appointment among many of our colleagues in the mainstream media. they wanted so badly for this to be true. this was finally going to get the president watching them grapple with that extraordinary statementfrom mueller in real time was sort of entertaining . >>chris: why do think mueller who has been so silent, that he felt he had yet to come out and knocked down this story?>> because it was so explosive and the president was going to be damaged by it even being out

there. to his credit, he wanted to set the record straight but i think he enhanced his own credibility. saying i'm fair-minded and i don't want the president to be treated unfairly. it's hard to argue this is a witchhunt after the special counsel did precisely what he did which was the right thing to do. >>chris: speaker gingrich, i don't want to bring back old bad feelings for you and republicans paid a price for the impeachment of president clinton in 1998. what advice would you give to house democrats based on the mistakes all of you made not to repeat. >>.[laughter] you put me in an awkward position here. >>chris: that's what i'm paid to do. >> everybody should read - - how the good guys finally won. the mistake i made was not following chips leadership. he was very cautious. he was very careful. he kept it as nonpartisan as possible a broad - - and who

everyone thought was a fair judiciary chairman and said do the right thing the right way. i think we got too involved with personal feelings about clinton himself in the way the report came out. at the same time, to be defensive for a second. president clinton did lose his license to practice law. he did have to pay a fine. i think the challenge for the democrats is, there's high likelihood that nothing will happen that leads to conviction. as we discovered, to impeach in the house is one thing. but then you've got to get a conviction in the senate and there is zero possibility that this senate will convict . >>chris: congresswoman edwards, is there anything speaker gingrich said that you think maybe we should follow that advice. >> i do think speaker pelosi has been exercising the kind of restraint - -

>>chris: she's having trouble with some of her members. >> but she is the leadership and she will decide ultimately how and whether this goes forward. she has said, she's waiting for the mother report to come out. i think that's a responsible thing to do.the other members have to decide for themselves what it is they will say about it along the way. >>chris: we have to take a break but when we come back, president trump announces a second summit with kim jong-un. we will discuss chances for breakthrough. plus, what would you like to ask the panel about the few between president trump and speaker pelosi is affecting prospects for ending the shutdown and reopening the government? we will get to all of that in the next segment. i wanted more from my copd medicine... ...that's why i've got the power of 1-2-3 medicines with trelegy. the only fda-approved 3-in-1 copd treatment. ♪ trelegy. the power of 1-2-3

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offer to democrats yesterday in exchange for border wall funding and an end to the government shutdown. we are back now with the panel. speaker gingrich, what do you make of the president's offer and given the immediate rejection by democrats. does it do anything to break the - -? >> i think it does a lot. i have suspicion that they have the votes to get that out of the senate. >>chris: you think they have seven democratic votes? >> i think they do. that's my guess. the white house is very optimistic that they listen carefully. when you add and help for the dreamers and the people were on refugee status. >>chris: it's temporary. >> three years compared to zero is a lot. i think the pressure from 800,000 families to get this

government reopened and the salaries paid is very real. i think there are the brush i've already seen individual democrats that says i can vote for the wall if that's what it takes. the challenge for speaker pelosi should be challenged to bring up her bill and to allow mccarthy to have a substitute. and see whether there are 20-30 democrats who side with mccarthy. her bill will not be signed into law and will not be taken up by the senate. >>chris: we've heard it from james clyburn, pelosi, no negotiations until you reopen the government. >> first of all, it's a nonstarter. if they don't accept the fact that trump is the president. he can veto anything he wants to. furthermore, it is a senate majority leader who won't even take up bill maciel sign up and second, i started with reagan. tip o'neill did not help

reagan. he would take up a bill to allow a substitute with the original tax cuts were a bipartisan substitute. ona understood he could be defeated on the floor and his left wouldn't be that matted but if he personally compromised, they would have killed him. pelosi can't compromise. but what can happen a bipartisan majority can run the house. >>chris: congresswoman edwards, here's what president trump said yesterday about speaker pelosi. walls work and we need walls. whether it's personal or not, it's not personal for me. she is being controlled by the radical left. did the president yesterday make an offer that pelosi can't refuse or an offer she can't accept? >> this was not an offer in compromise. it was funding for a wall that democrats and the majority of the american people oppose. it was temporary reprisal and temporary protected status.

for the dreamers. something that the president took away. you don't give back something you took away and say that's an offer in compromise. i think speaker pelosi recognizes this. she recognizes the american people are with her on this. president trump needs to open government and making legitimate - - they can legitimately debate. >>chris: if he really is the government, he will lose all of his leverage. he asked her if i open government will you ever give me money for the wall and she said no. >> of the american people that. >>chris: you can't speak for the american people with all due respect. >> you can't hold 800,000 americans hostage and not pay them. some of whom are working and not pay them because you're not getting your way. i don't think the present is negotiating in good faith.

when he puts on the table a wall and temporary status. temporary status is what he took away. mr. clyburn said, you are three years into college and then you dig your fourth-year because you no longer have status? an employer change you the best trained you for a job and says i can have you because in three years you'll be gone. this is not an acceptable offer in compromise and the president needs to come to the table. >>chris: we asked you for questions for the panel and we got this on facebook from mark strickler who writes, trump couldn't do it with ryan and republicans. why should pelosi be any different? how do you answer mark because he does make a point. when you had a republican house and a republican senate, with ryan in charge of the house but you still didn't get much funding for the wall. >> it's a clean hit on the republicans for there's no

question about that. barack obama and the democrats did the same thing. they punted on immigration and did nothing and then stirred the pot once the public is one the house. the same is occurring with the parties in reverse. with respect, congresswoman, i feel like the answer could be if it's not an acceptable offer from the president. that's fine, democrats should counter offer with something as opposed to nothing at all. today in the "washington post", the editorial board they broke quote, trumps offer should be welcomed if not the final word. to refuse to even talk until the government reopens does no favors to sidelined federal workers and contractors. i think that's exactly right for the president has made his position clear. he's made an offer with the compromise on the table.if nancy pelosi and her team profess to care so deeply about these workers, play ball. come back with something. >>chris: i want to turn to another big story this week and

that was the announcement on friday by president trump that he's going to hold another summit meeting late next month with north korean leader kim - - kim jong-un. is it true theirs have been no new ballistic tests but nothing we would call denuclearization. intelligence is that says they are continuing to produce nuclear fuel so why give them another summit? >> i've lived with this problem for a long time. when bill clinton was trying to negotiate with the north koreans. something very different happened recently. kim jong-un went on national television and made an address in a western suit in a western studio, looking like a modern part of the regular world. by north korean standards, that was a revolutionary moment.

he has been talking with the south koreans who very much want this summit. and i think this is part of continuing moving in the direction of getting him engaged into the modern world. >>chris: it gives him the - - bonanza and weakened sanctions. singapore,last june , the chinese are trading more. so you've given him a lot and so far, we've got nothing. >> i think our sanctions have been very effective. nothing we do whether meeting or not meeting with him affects the russians and chinese. they will act out of their own beliefs. i think it helps that can meet with the present and understand how farm we are on these things and i think terry pompeo's been very clear about this. i don't regard this as a mistake but i frankly expected it to happen.

i think there have been signs of opening up north korea in ways that are pretty close to revolutionary. >>chris: congresswoman. >> of this summit really makes no sense. especially with adversaries, there's supposed to be a reward for better behavior. the north koreans haven't exhibited that. appearing in a western suit is not the same as the nuclear rising. it's important to continue a dialogue at a diplomatic level but not a presidentmeeting with the north koreans . >>chris: guy. >> i agree with the congresswoman on this but i don't believe they have shown enough. they have to be in the game if they want these sanctions take off and they want to be part of the international community.i don't think you give that level of respect to kim jong-un , absent major progress and i think we haven't seen that. >>chris: thank you panel to see you next sunday. thank you for scrambling and

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tour get nominated for the 2019 peace prize? here's an update on one of our power players of the week. josc andres is one of america's most celebrated chefs. running a restaurant empire. but these days, you are likely to find him in relief effort after a natural disaster. his world central kitchen has provided millions of meals. after hurricanes in puerto rico and florida . but now, andres is responding to a man-made disaster. the government shutdown. setting up the kitchen to feed the furloughed.

right here in washington. >> we believe no one should have to go through the pain of not knowing what they will feed their children point so we are opening a kitchen. >>chris: his operation is on pennsylvania avenue, midway between the white house and capital. >> our goal is to make their lives a little easier. they can come in and get hot plate of food. they can eat and in our cafc or they cantake it home and also get food for their families . >> we work tirelessly and we are caught in a political game. it's a blessing to have other people to help out. >>chris: andres says politicians are free to help out but only if they bring someone from the other side of the aisle tovolunteer with them . >> it's a call to action to our senators and congressmen and especially president trump to make sure that we in this moment in the history ofamerica , our families are about to go hungry. >>chris: the world central kitchen here in washington served more than 20,000 meals and just his first four days. and they announced they will expand your operation to feed

for load federal workers across the country. that's it for today. have a great week and we hope to see you back at our regular fox news studios next "fox news sunday". maria: good sunday morning, everyone, i'm maria bartiromo. coming up, joining us straight ahead on "sunday morning futures" right here, republican senator john hohmann. mitch mcconnell says he intends to act on the shutdown bill this week, but can it pass? house speaker nancy pelosi are says the president's proposal is a nonstarter, so what will bring democrats to the bargaining table? also with us, freshman congressman jeff van drew on why he did not support nancy pelosi for a second time. then congressman john